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Old 11-06-2014, 05:45 PM
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Soooo...let's review, shall we?

A law abiding citizen works and goes to buy a gun with his own money. He must jump through hoops, have a background check, wait 10 days to receive the property he paid for, and then may not carry or utilize said property except on an approved range under supervision.

Meanwhile, Jamaal and Julio, the local gang banging sweetheart porch monkeys, STEAL said gun from said law abiding citizen....and get in no trouble for having it in their possession. Got it.

No wonder y'all eat tofu and have a herd of homos
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Soooo...let's review, shall we?

A law abiding citizen works and goes to buy a gun with his own money. He must jump through hoops, have a background check, wait 10 days to receive the property he paid for, and then may not carry or utilize said property except on an approved range under supervision.

Meanwhile, Jamaal and Julio, the local gang banding sweethearts STEAL said gun from said law abiding citizen....and get in no trouble for having it in their possession. Got it.

No wonder y'all eat tofu and have a herd of homos
Pretty much sums it up.
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Old 11-06-2014, 06:14 PM
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Trying desperately to avoid banishment I will merely quote the following,

"When the inherently criminal act of stealing someone else’s property is a mere misdemeanor, while failing to ask the state’s permission before doing something that harms no one is a felony, there are some seriously twisted priorities in play."

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The intent of the proposition was to reduce the prison population, by reducing certain felony crimes down to misdemeanors.
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The intent of the proposition was to reduce the prison population, by reducing certain felony crimes down to misdemeanors.
So they lessen the time to be served for stealing a firearm to save money cause the prisons are over crowded. I wonder when murder "caused I was really pissed" will earn me a $25 citation out there.
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So they lessen the time to be served for stealing a firearm to save money cause the prisons are over crowded. I wonder when murder "caused I was really pissed" will earn me a $25 citation out there.


Again, the intent was to decrease certain felonies to misdemeanors. Prop 47 had/has nothing to do with gun theft.

You have to love the internet and the FUD it spreads....

Read here:

http://ballotpedia.org/California_Pr...ext_of_measure
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Again, the intent was to decrease certain felonies to misdemeanors. Prop 47 had/has nothing to do with gun theft.

You have to love the internet and the FUD it spreads....

Read here:

http://ballotpedia.org/California_Pr...ext_of_measure
I read it, and it said:

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The crimes that would be reclassified from a felony to a misdemeanor are not minor crimes.

For instance, the penalty for stealing a firearm valued at up to $950 would be reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor, reducing a sentence from up to three years in prison today to a maximum of just 12 months under Prop. 47.
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Prop 47 rewrites our laws to benefit criminals. Prop 47 is a lengthy piece of legislation with many hidden provisions. Some of the not-so-obvious things Prop 47 will do are:

Change crimes like purse and phone snatching -- where thieves grab expensive property right off your body -- into petty theft, the same as stealing a candy bar.
Make possession of "date rape" drugs a misdemeanor.
Prevent many commercial burglars from being charged with a felony as long as they strike during work hours -- when it's most dangerous for employees.
Make stealing a handgun -- which is often done to commit violent crimes -- a misdemeanor in almost all cases.
Reduce sentences for muggers, burglars, cocaine and heroin dealers, and other dangerous criminals who pled guilty to lesser offenses like grand theft or possession.
Make receiving property obtained through extortion a misdemeanor (up to $950).
Make stealing horses and other animals a misdemeanor in many cases.
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Prop 47 would eliminate automatic felony prosecution for stealing a gun. Under current law, stealing a gun is a felony, period. Prop 47 would redefine grand theft in such a way that theft of a firearm could only be considered a felony if the value of the gun is greater than $950. Almost all handguns (which are the most stolen kind of firearm) retail for well below $950. People don’t steal guns just so they can add to their gun collection. They steal guns to commit another crime. People stealing guns are protected under Proposition 47.
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